User talk:Jmabel/Archive 15

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About Copyright violations

Hello there. I'm having some difficulties regarding copyvios on Wiki-commons, and I was wondering if you could gave some advice on it. Most of them are pictures of Argentinian Presidents, and I'm wondering if there is a different way to have them on commons and preventing them from being deleted. Thanks and keep in touch. Messhermit 17:37, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bad edit

I'm operator of bot working under user account User:Margosbot. After investigating the case of French Directory it seems that problem must have been with servers.

  1. In my log, article is ok. ( I log all info sent by bot)
  2. Test using Sanbox was successfull.
  3. Applaying again was sucessful.

Conclusion: When a new database dump will be availiable, I'll check all edits. I'm not able to fix servers. The same bot on plwiki made over 5000 edits without problems. Margospl 22:04, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that was not your imagination. It's true that bad version of article was stored on servers.
Your remark inspired me to check again all past and future edits. It imposes some extra work to me. But I like to be sure that all'll be ok. Margospl 21:27, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New template

I've started a little project at Wikipedia:Sandbox/Template:Judaism as you can see...please help out in any way you can, or tell me why I should just stop it. :-p Tomer TALK 09:55, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Hungarian, German and Romanian – is it really me who put those links?

Hi, I can't recall putting those links into the article which you mention, and I can't even find these changes in the page's history. Can you explicitly tell me at what date and time I did the changes?? Actually, I'm afraid you are wrong.

Adam78 11:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Seeing as how you weighed in on another controversial VFD (List of people described as neoconservatives, I was wondering if you could weigh in on this one as well Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of people described as Stalinists. Thank you. TDC 00:02, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Don't Edit Talk

Thanks for the tip about not editing talk pages, I'll keep it in mind in future.

I guess it'll take me a while to learn the conventions and etiquette of this medium/community, and hopefully I won't step on too many toes in the meantime!

Cheers Cmdrjameson 02:17, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

New anti-Semitism

I don't know if I completely understand the current dispute, so I've tried to summarize what I think is going on, before I wade in too deeply. Please let me know if I'm on the right track. Jayjg (talk) 06:06, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Discussion about need of new Template:Judaism

Hi Joe, please see the proposed Template:Judaism and its talk page about the question/s if it's needed at all. Thanks. IZAK 06:17, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject U.S. Regions update proposals

I have posted some proposed changes to the project on it's talk page. Please review them as soon as is convenient and let me know what you think. -JCarriker 12:02, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Absolutely, you can copy edit me. Does this make mores sense: If the article title includes a proper noun in it (other than United States), such as New England, the article should remain unmodified at that designation. Also in regards to your post before the copy-edit querry on my page- I think your being rather modest, the project may not be a priority to you, but you are still one of its leading and, in my opinon best participants. -JCarriker 21:37, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
Looks good to me. I found a few more errors but corrected them myself [1]. -JCarriker 11:50, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
I've put together the actual proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Regions/General. I cover both the proposed policy and structural changes that we discussed on the project talk, and on our talk pages. Pleas feel free to edit the proposal directly but, please don't discuss it on that page as I've reserved it for the actual proposed "legislation". I've left the category section blank in the hopes that you would write you ideas there. Thanks. -JCarriker 20:21, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

Alberto Fujimori Fujimori

Sorry(?), that is his complete name. The name is not doubled, but his father and his mother seem to have the same surnames. If you for instance look at the name of the other presidents they also use, as the latin custom is, two names (father, mother):

Alejandro Toledo Manrique

Valentín Paniagua Corazao

(Alberto Fujimori Fujimori)

Alan García Pérez

Fernando Belaunde Terry

Francisco Morales Bermúdes

Juan Velasco Alvarado

etcetera etcetera

The custum in Wikipedia – as I have understand it – is to use the complete name on the page and (preferable) do some redirects from the shortcuts of the name, in this case there should be one on Alberto Fujimori Xauxa 20:27, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I see now that the English Wikipedia states the name: Alberto Ken'ya Fujimori. However, I have used the name he used in Perú. Xauxa 20:32, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I can not say that the "double" name is much used, though in the listing of the presidents (above) when giving the full names, Historia Visual del Perú, published in August 2004 by the most respected daily paper El Comercio, states his name like that. Of course there are other sources, but that was what I had in hand. (On the other hand, for instance Gran Enciclopedia Universal, published 2004 by the Spanish daily paper El Mundo, only gives the "short-cut" Alberto Fujimori. Maybe it is a matter of taste. Latin countries often use the double name, although it is not so common elsewhere.) Xauxa 21:37, 3 May 2005 (UTC)


You might be interested in a friendly dispute I am having in the article Arabization. I would like your opinion on the current version. The dispute can be found in talk.

Hope to hear from you,

Guy Montag 09:16, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

International law and the Arab-Israeli conflict

I am having an unfriendly dispute over some information I have included in the refugees section of the article. I put in material relating to international law I see as valid, and Zero0000 removes it on an ad homonim basis. He has not offered any reason for its removal. I am interested in a 3rd opinion, as there isn't going to be a resolution without it. Since you were kind enough to weigh in on the Arabization article to everyone's satisfaction, I am hoping that an equally valid response from you will come in this dipuste.

Hope to hear from you,

Guy Montag 23:06, 1 May 2005 (UTC)


Don't panic! The Slovenia parliamentary elections, 2004 item was already listed under Recently Completed Translations about half a dozen lines up, it just hadn't been removed from the Requested translations list - Eleassar777 had left it there with a request that it be checked. I did so and added a note saying as much to its entry on Recently Completed Translations.

I'm currently going through the Recently Completed Translations list adding the translation as a reference to these articles and adding the details from WP:TIE to the talk page, but these details are hidden in diffs going quite a long way back now in the history. Is there a quicker way to get to them knowing the time and date the entries were made? The URL for the diffs includes an 'oldid', but presumably the only way to find that is to find the diff you want in the first place.

Anyway, thank you for checking up on me - it's quite reassuring! SteveW | Talk 10:12, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the help. I've sorted out all the articles listed on "Recently Completed" now so I can get on with something more exciting for a bit, like the Kurt Tucholsky translation that's sitting on my desk waiting for me to finish it... SteveW | Talk 18:05, 1 May 2005 (UTC)


You've probably already noticed Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mr Tan, but it was suggested that you might be specially interested, so I thought that I'd make sure. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 21:36, 1 May 2005 (UTC)


I know. Only one way for them to learn--let them try to edit the article. Three weeks is way too long. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 01:18, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

List of Stalinists

If it was List of people who described themselves as Stalinists, each one properly sourced, I could go with it. But I don't like lists that involve judgements, particularly where the criteria for judging are not made clear. Take Bob Avakian as an example. His article doesn't say he's a "Stalinist". It doesn't quote him identifying himself as one. So why is he on the list? Grace Note 05:22, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

But considering something "part of your heritage" doesn't make it something you are! I consider the Chartists part of my heritage, but I'm not a Chartist. The List of fascists is very clear that it is selecting only self-identified fascists, and there are enough that we don't need to invent them. There are few Stalinists but plenty of leftists who rightwingers will add to the list if it isn't watched very carefully. I'm not fond of lists to begin with; ones that are so obviously prey to vandalism, less so; but I'm not keen on deleting what others feel has a place either. If the intro was reworded to match the fascist one, anyone who doesn't self-identify as a Stalinist taken out (Avakian was just an example, there's at least one other), and you undertake to watch it carefully against the inevitable addition of people who don't fit the bill, I'd reconsider.Grace Note 05:49, 3 May 2005 (UTC)


Actually, I did read about the forwarding, and was trying to figure out if it was approriate to disambig it. I was looking up more information on the other lesser definition of gang. I did not think putting a see also on such a large topic was appropriate. So if you feel it should be the original way, thank you for pointing that out. Otherwise, I will start working on the redirects. Who 06:13, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

cont.. Ok, now I see the most functional way to do it. Thanks Who 06:17, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Lithuania POV editor

I've protected the pages that were repeatedly reverted. I'm completely unqualified to settle these disputes since I know nothing about Polish/Lithuanian history. Could you take a look at his suggested changes which are listed on the talk pages, otherwise let me know and I'll put the pages on ROC. Thanks --nixie 14:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)


"Please do be more careful about this. I agree with you entirel about that Zivinbudas is utterly wrong at Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but that doesn't mean that you can ignore rules."

"The three revert rule is not generally considered to apply to reversions of simple vandalism by users who are waiting for a sysop to block the IP, of course." [2] - I dont broke the 3rr (my 4 revert) :) --Witkacy 14:29, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

"By the way, I hope you understand that your decision not to accept email from other Wikipedia contributors prevents anyone from addressing you privately. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:35, May 3, 2005 (UTC)"

I added my email--Witkacy 14:29, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, since the pages have been protected he has left abusive messages for the Polish administrators in on the talk pages of the artciles. Getting a more extended block will be a pain since he edits from Zivinbudas, plus several IPs. I'll leave the pages protected and get advice from some other admins on how to proceed. Thanks again --nixie 01:15, 4 May 2005 (UTC)


Thanks for your concise and clear comments on NAS talk - its clear that the talk page (an assemblage of different quotes) is more substantial than the article itself. -SV|t 20:24, 3 May 2005 (UTC)


One of the admins at the site found my comments on that talk page, and banned me for it :) -- Revolutionary Left | Che y Marijuana 16:39, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

No, I meant one of the admins at -- Revolutionary Left | Che y Marijuana 23:09, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
Sorry about that :)-- Revolutionary Left | Che y Marijuana 23:13, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

Template talk:Israelis

Hello Joe, please see current discussion at Template talk:Israelis. Thank you. IZAK 05:23, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Hey Jmabel. I'm sorry if my "piece process" thing offended you. As you should be able to tell by the completely non-constructive nature of the comment, it was meant in jest. Maybe the matza's still stuck? :-p sh"sh. Tomer TALK 21:02, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

U.S. regions

Are you no longer interested in the project? I say this because you haven't reposnded to posts like you normally do or are you just not seen the latest posts at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Regions/General? -JCarriker 21:29, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

I'm willing to do the heavy lifting, but I need to be in a postion to act alone without acting unilateraly. The proposed policy would help set up a way to do that ;). I'm trying to push this through before May 20th, I've removed the categories from the proposal because they are not a priority of either of us and as such are only going to get in the way. The notification is my fault, I'll try to post under new headings on your talk page to better catch your attettion. I'll try to be prompt and brief but I really can't do this without you Joe. If we can get the policy passed, that will free up my hands to act. We basically are the project now and as such you and I constuite a majority, the other participant are either incative at present or have chosen to ignore my post, and as the majority we can work quickly. - JCarriker 05:46, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Voting on the proposal will begin momentarily on the main talk page of U.S. regions. -JCarriker 06:10, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Polls open please vote.-JCarriker 06:19, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I guess we'll wait a few days and see what happens. -JCarriker 06:38, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

Ethnic make up of Sibiu

Regarding this [3] edit, I think you are correct about the Germans even though I am not sure if I would go all the way to majority, I know for instance that the nearby village of Cisnădioară was almost exclusively German before 1990. But I am not sure about the Hungarian claim. I never heard anything about any (much less a sizable) Hungarian population in Sibiu when I lived there. Although I suppose that the şaşi might just have been better liked. Anyway I think I will look into the issue (read: email my friends that live there), and thought I would drop you a line in case I end up changing it in some way. Dalf | Talk 09:57, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Paradesi Synagogue

Hello, I started this article as I have been doing on so many others on India-specific topics, and I find the care being bestowed to my efforts by fellow editors. Thanks. --Bhadani 02:14, 7 May 2005 (UTC)

BC/AD versus BCE/CE

There's a discussion and a vote on this topic going on at Talk:Jesus#Reversions & Consensus on BCE/AD; I thought you might be interested. Jayjg (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2005 (UTC)


Hi, a newcomer just added some material to Porgy and Bess [4]. I have cleaned up the English a bit, but I have some doubts about the content. Since it has to do with Seattle, I thought you might like to take a look. Thanks, -- Viajero 19:26, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Blank lines

I added the blank lines in The Picture of Dorian Gray since the article is incredibly long and complex. Why would someone need to remove those lines? They don't effect the way the article looks. It just makes it a little easier to read the markup, especially the headings when people are going through the entire page. --Ricky81682 (talk) 05:38, May 12, 2005 (UTC)